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Uber
Stat Min- Min Max Max+ PS 100- 341 404 - Att 120248 276 339 372 Dif 120248 276 339 372 Att Sp 150302 336 399 438 Dif Sp 100212 236 299 328 Vel 90194 216 279 306 Nome Moveset Strumento Abilitŕ Natura Defensive Dialga Avanzi Pressione Quieta Mosse EVs ~ Levitoroccia
~ Dragobolide / Dragopulsar
~ Fuocobomba / Lanciafiamme
~ Boato / Codadrago / Tuono252 PS / 56 Att Sp/ 200 Dif Sp
Dialga is one of the very few Dragon-types who can go the supportive route. Stealth Rock requires no real explanation, though keep in mind that Dialga should lay down Stealth Rock as soon as possible to prevent Lugia or Ho-Oh from switching into Dialga freely. The next move is dependent on the type of team that Dialga is supporting. Draco Meteor can be used to dish out immediate damage and strip off more than half of Groudon's health. If one still favors PP and consistency, Dragon Pulse offers Dialga a decently powerful move without the need to switch out after one use. Bear in mind, Groudon is a common switch in to Dialga and Dragon Pulse just can't hit Groudon hard enough to prevent it from coming in. Draco Meteor has the added bonus of OHKOing Reshiram and Palkia without the need of Stealth Rock damage. Fire Blast is the preferred Fire-type move for the extra power and it has the added bonus of 2HKOing most Groudon and Ferrothorn in the rain. Flamethrower helps keep Forretress and other Steel-types, barring opposing Dialga and Heatran from setting up on Dialga but is generally an inferior move compared to Fire Blast. Roar can be used effectively with Dialga to rack up residual damage. If you want to able to phaze through Taunt instead of Substitute, Dragon Tail works fine as an alternative. Dialga also conveniently gets STAB from Dragon Tail. Since it forces a lot of switches, Dialga makes an excellent phazer. Thunder works best alongside Kyogre as its Drizzle ability remedies Thunder's poor accuracy. Dialga can also act as a check to Zekrom by resisting Lightning Strike and surviving 2 unboosted Outrages on average while Dialga's Draco Meteor will OHKO Zekrom.
The given EVs ensure that Palkia's Lustrous Orb-boosted Spacial Rend will not 2HKO Dialga. Conveniently, Dialga can also survive 2 full power non Specs Water Spouts from Kyogre. This allows Dialga to use Thunder Wave, then Stealth Rock, and then switch to the appropriate counter. When using Thunder, Dialga can beat most Kyogre one-on-one. The Special Attack EVs and Modest nature allows Dialga to OHKO Darkrai with Draco Meteor. Thunder also 2HKOes most Kyogre and some Ho-Oh.
This set can also be used as a lead. Lum Berry can be used to prevent Dialga from being put to sleep by Darkrai leads, allowing Dialga to severely cripple them with Thunder Wave or OHKO them with Draco Meteor. Dialga is, however, unable to prevent Deoxys-S and Deoxys-A from setting up Stealth Rock and possibly a layer of Spikes. Due to the rarity of Deoxys-S and Deoxys-A this generation, Dialga will have a much easier time as a lead. Toxic can be used to cripple walls such as Lugia.
On a stall team, Dialga appreciates the residual damage from Spikes and Toxic Spikes. Forretress is the only Pokemon capable of laying down Toxic Spikes in the Uber metagame. This lessens the need for Toxic since the only Pokemon that Toxic Spikes will miss are Flying-types and Pokemon with Levitate and some of them can be removed by Dialga's powerful strikes. Forretress can also lay down Spikes, but relying on it to lay down all three layers of Spikes and two layers of Toxic Spikes puts Forretress under a lot of stress. As a lead, Deoxys-S can set up Spikes, since it can forgo Stealth Rock if Dialga opts to use it. Skarmory is an excellent Pokemon in this situation, since it completely walls Groudon barring the rare Overheat or Fire Punch, can set up Spikes, has access to a recovery move, and can use Whirlwind to force switches. With entry hazards taken into account, Dialga needs a teammate that can block Rapid Spin. Giratina-O or Ghost Arceus is the best Pokemon for the job. Giratina-O shares great typing synergy with Dialga by being immune to both Ground- and Fighting-type attacks while checking Groudon as well. Dialga also resists Giratina-O's weakness to Dark- and Ghost-type attacks.
Offensive teams will appreciate Stealth Rock and Thunder Wave or Toxic support. Rayquaza, for example, has an easier time crushing teams if most of the opponent's Pokemon are slower than it. With Toxic crippling defensive Pokemon, Arceus has an easier time sweeping the opponent. For example, if Lugia is poisoned, it can no longer wall Extremekiller Arceus. Offensive Groudon loves Support Dialga since many of its checks, such as Skarmory and Giratina, can be battered by Dialga. Swords Dance Groudon climbs in effectiveness with Thunder Wave support, while Rock Polish Groudon is solid with Toxic support.Nome Moveset Strumento Abilitŕ Natura Mixed Dialga Assorbisfera / Abilcintura Pressione Mite / Quieta Mosse EVs ~ Dragobolide
~ Oltraggio / Breccia
~ Fuocobomba
~ Tuono / Granfisico252 Att / 252 Dif Sp / 4 Vel
STAB Draco Meteor bolstered by 438 Special Attack is frightening for almost any opponent. Only Steel-type Pokemon, Ho-Oh, Lugia, Chansey, and Blissey can take Draco Meteor without the risk of being 2HKOed in the process, though some frailer Steel-types such as Lucario take major damage anyway (66.2% - 77.9% if Dialga is Mild). Brick Break, with the given Attack EVs, will 2HKO Blissey and most Chansey with Stealth Rock in play while Outrage is an excellent attack to use with or without Bulk Up. Without Bulk Up, Dialga can use Outrage with a Life Orb to 2HKO most Kyogre and both pink blobs. Bulk Up is a great lure move since it draws in Groudon, which is in turn shut down by STAB Draco Meteor. With Bulk Up, Dialga should be able to even surge through Wish Blissey. Fire Blast is the best attack for taking down the vast majority of Steel-types in the Uber metagame, but it comes with the downside of being weakened by rain. This can be resolved by partnering Dialga with Groudon or Tyranitar. The final slot should generally be Thunder due to its perfect accuracy in the rain; with its 30% chance of paralysis, most opponents will think twice before they switch in, since many Dialga checks or counters rely on their Speed. Thunder also smacks both Ho-Oh and Lugia. Bear in mind Thunder's accuracy is hampered in the sun and both can remove their weakness to it with Roost as long as they are faster. To deal with both Ho-Oh and Lugia, Dialga can be partnered with Kyogre who easily scares off both the GSC legends.
To maximize Dialga's potential, there are many options in regards to natures and EVs. The suggested EV spread and nature allows Dialga's Draco Meteor to hit with maximum power and outspeed slow base 90s who don't invest in Speed. 252 Atk EVs grant Dialga the ability to 2HKO most Blissey and Chansey with Outrage or Brick Break. Life Orb-boosted Outrage also 2HKOes max HP / min Def Kyogre and Ho-Oh, which means Dialga can be effective at taking out Mono-Attacker Kyogre and surprise Ho-Oh. If you opt for Mild, you should use Expert Belt, since it provides enough power to obtain the same KOs as Life Orb while conserving Dialga's HP. Hasty, with 64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe EVs, allows Dialga to outspeed Adamant Rayquaza and Adamant Lucario. Hasty with 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe also works well here if you want to just max out Speed. Outspeeding Adamant Rayquaza means that Dialga's team is less susceptible to a Swords Dance Rayquaza sweep, though keep in mind that most Rayquaza sets use a Speed-boosting nature. With a Hasty nature, Dialga will need a Life Orb in order to stay competitive offensively. Because Dialga can survive Choice Scarf Garchomp's Earthquake and even Life Orb Aura Sphere from Mewtwo, it can effectively utilize a spread of 120 HP / 136 Atk / 252 SpA with a Quiet nature in order to survive one of those assaults. Expert Belt is preferable for Quiet Dialga since the main goal is to ensure Dialga is as healthy as possible in case it needs to take these extreme hits. Life Orb can be used, however, since Dialga can even OHKO Support Groudon with Draco Meteor 100% of the time with a Quiet nature, which is slightly reduced to 87% with Hasty; though Stealth Rock and a layer of Spikes assures the KO. Brick Break, with Stealth Rock in play, can also be used to easily 2HKO Heatran who otherwise can wall this set. A Quiet nature with minimum Speed IVs and maximum offenses on both sides, allows Dialga to function well in Trick Room teams.
Some options were left out of the set because they are generally inferior options, but are nevertheless effective choices if Dialga needs them. Dragon Tail can be used over Brick Break or Outrage to abuse entry hazards and play mind games with the opponent. Obviously when using Dragon Tail, Dialga should use Adamant Orb over Life Orb. Earth Power means Dialga will never fall to a Heatran switch-in. Stealth Rock is also an option since Dialga forces many switches and it prevents Ho-Oh from walling Dialga. Finally, Stone Edge or Power Gem can be used if Dialga's team has issues with Ho-Oh. While Draco Meteor and Outrage do sufficient damage by themselves, Draco Meteor has the nasty drawback of -2 SpA while Pressure takes away 2 PP in the process. Outrage is risky since Ho-Oh's Sacred Fire has a 50% chance of a burn behind it, and usually has boosted power thanks to most Ho-Oh being used in conjunction with sunlight. These moves can replace either Thunder or Fire Blast. For items, Leftovers and Adamant Orb are viable. Leftovers offers Dialga recovery and works well with the Quiet spread, while Adamant Orb helps bluff a choice item.
While Dialga hits extremely hard, it does require support from its teammates. As shown with just a few damage calculations, Dialga appreciates entry hazards to help it net its KOs. Leads such as Deoxys-S or Deoxys-A are great choices for teammates since they have a high chance of getting Stealth Rock and at least one layer of Spikes up if they are not facing a Forretress lead. Forretress is also a great partner as it has the added benefit of removing entry hazards on your side of the field thanks to Rapid Spin and can set up Toxic Spikes to weaken Groudon and the pink blobs. Giratina-O can also be a staple provided that you're using entry hazards. It has the added benefit of being able to handle Groudon well thanks to its immunity to Earthquake and amazing overall defensive stats. Since Thunder is reliant on rain, Kyogre is an excellent partner, as not only does its ability boost Thunder's accuracy to 100%, but it also nullifies Heatran as a threat while making Reshiram and Ho-Oh less effective, thanks to Dialga resisting Brave Bird. Sadly, Groudon doesn't bring as many benefits to the table as Kyogre does, though Support Groudon is an excellent teammate as it can slow Dialga's counters down with Thunder Wave while being able to set up Stealth Rock. Groudon's sunlight allows Reshiram to OHKO Dialga however. Since Dialga is great at breaking through most defensive teams in general, offensive Pokemon such as Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Swords Dance Garchomp appreciate having Dialga as their partner. Some Arceus variants can also wall Dialga. Defensive Normal Arceus takes a lot of damage from Draco Meteor but it can stall it out due to Recover while Dialga is killing itself through Life Orb Recoil. Brick Break and Outrage will fail to 2HKO defensive Arceus. Ho-Oh can nail most defensive Arceus while Tyranitar can be used with Dialga to take down most bulky Calm Mind Arceus.
Dialga's other issues involve its average Speed, which leaves it susceptible to being revenge killed by Pokemon such as Mewtwo and Darkrai. Scarf Garchomp is a great partner since it outspeeds Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Scarf Palkia. Another great Scarf user is Shaymin-S, which can target both Kyogre and Groudon with STAB Seed Flare while outspeeding Adamant Rock Polish Groudon. Scarf Tyranitar is rather slow; however, its natural bulk and SpD boost from the sandstorm allows it to be effective at revenge killing non-Dragon Dance Rayquaza, Swords Dance Lucario, Heatran, Reshiram and Ho-Oh. While Wobbuffet is slower than Choice Scarf users, it has the advantage of being able to cushion at least one hit from a Scarf Pokemon before biting the dust. Finally, Heatran does very well at stopping a Mixed Dialga sweep cold, so teammates are needed to handle this situation. Kyogre stops Heatran easily thanks to Drizzle and its incredible special stats. Rayquaza's Air Lock nullifies the sunlight's boost, and it can switch into Earth Power freely, though it has to be careful when facing Dragon Pulse variants. Reshiram can also blow past Heatran with Turbo Blaze Blue Fire while sporting a 4x resistance to Fire-type attacks and great Special Defense.Nome Moveset Strumento Abilitŕ Natura Defensive Bulk Up Avanzi Pressione Cauta Mosse EVs ~ Riposo
~ Sonnolaia
~ Granfisico
~ Oltraggio / Dragartigli252 PS / 4 Dif / 252 Dif Sp
This set takes advantage of Dialga's numerous resistances, well-distributed defensive stats, access to a STAB attack that only has one resistance, and Bulk Up. Bulk Up boosts Dialga's Attack and Defense stats, which helps power up its attacks, as well as increase its chances of survival against physical attackers. For example, after a Bulk Up, Dialga can survive Choice Band Terrakion's Close Combat while Dialga can easily OHKO a -1 Def Terrakion with a +1 Outrage. When Dialga manages to set up Bulk Up, it can be almost impenetrable on the physical side. Once Dialga finds an ideal time to do so, simply Rest off the damage, all the while using Sleep Talk to keep Dialga threatening to the opponent. This set is excellent for absorbing Dark Void from Darkrai since Dialga isn't deterred by falling asleep. Outrage gives Dialga more power but locks Dialga in when it is used. However, when Sleep Talk selects Outrage, it will not trap Dialga. Dragon Claw can be used if you want reliability instead of more PP and power. Since Dialga will be boosting its Defense via Bulk Up, max Special Defense is necessary to help Dialga cushion most special attacks.
Dragon Tail can be used if you really want to phaze but it is generally an inferior option as it is quite weak. Since Dialga is slow, it can lose all its boosts to a faster phazer like Lugia without even touching the opponent and most Steel-types just laugh at it.
Skarmory, Ferrothorn, Lugia, Groudon, Heatran, Reshiram, Fighting Arceus, Ground Arceus, Terrakion, and Lucario to some extent will cause issues for this set. The best way to address these threats is to have offensively-oriented teammates for Dialga. While it has Earthquake to deal with Heatran, Giratina-O stops most Groudon sets cold thanks to STAB Draco Meteor, its immunity to Earthquake and great defenses. Mixed Rayquaza is also an excellent teammate, since it lures in and takes out many of Dialga's checks, and doesn't require any setup time to do so. Rayquaza needs to be aware of its surroundings, however, since switching into any of Dialga's counters will leave your Rayquaza crippled or likely fainted. While Mixed Dialga could check many of its slower enemies with the help of some EVs in Speed or even a Hasty nature, this set has many problems with Pokemon that are faster than it. Some of the recommended Scarf Pokemon mentioned in the Mixed set (Shaymin-S and Garchomp for example) are great assets since Groudon likely outspeeds this Dialga.
Some of the problematic Pokemon that Dialga faces cannot be exactly "countered" per se, but they should definitely be brought to attention while you plan out Dialga's setup. Wobbuffet can cause some issues with this set in particular. It can easily Encore a move and not take damage if Dialga is asleep and locked into Sleep Talk. Due to the Encore nerf, Wobbuffet will be less troublesome as Dialga can just keep boosting with Bulk Up and eventually kill Wobbuffet. With Stealth Rock, Dialga would need three Bulk Ups to nearly KO Wobbuffet with Outrage (80.7% - 95.1%). With Dragon Claw, Dialga needs three Bulk Ups in order to 2HKO Wobbuffet. Since there is no real way of countering Wobbuffet, the best that can be said is "Watch out". Haban Berry Garchomp cannot always win against this set, but it can either severely damage Dialga or scare it off. Even after a Bulk Up, a Swords Dance-boosted Earthquake from Garchomp will OHKO Dialga 87% of the time. Taunt is uncommon, but it is a relevant threat since it allows Pokemon such as Mewtwo to set up freely when Dialga is asleep. Finally, watch out for Trick; since many Pokemon in the Uber metagame are part Psychic-type, it is a common move to have on Choice sets. Skarmory and Lugia don't mind Outrage at all while setting up Spikes in Skarmory's case or a Reflect in Lugia's situation. Both can easily phaze Dialga out. Dialga can beat both of them if it is the last Pokemon however, since it can no longer be phazed out. Groudon can deal massive damage to Dialga with Earthquake while possessing very high Defense. Heatran resists Dialga's only attacking move and can Taunt or even 3HKO Dialga with Flamethrower. Lucario resists Dragon-type attacks, can set up a Swords Dance and OHKO even a +1 Dialga with Close Combat. Reshiram just blows Dialga apart with its insanely powerful Specs Blue Fire, Ferrothorn can Leech Seed Dialga and set up Spikes on it while resisting Dragon-type attacks as well. Terrakion ignores Defense boosts with Sacred Sword and can 2HKO Dialga with it. Fighting Arceus and Ground Arceus can easily 2HKO Dialga with their powerful Judgements while Swords Dance versions can beat Dialga with boosted Brick Breaks and Earthquakes respectively.Nome Moveset Strumento Abilitŕ Natura Choice Scarf Stolascelta Pressione Timida / Lesta Mosse EVs ~ Dragobolide
~ Tuono
~ Fuocobomba / Forzasfera
~ Dragonpulsar / Oltraggio4 Att / 252 Att Sp / 252 Vel
Dialga's lackluster Speed can be fixed with a Choice Scarf at the cost of locking it onto one attack. Dialga reaches 459 Speed with a Choice Scarf, which is enough to outspeed Deoxys-A. Draco Meteor is the primary attack; with Stealth Rock in play Draco Meteor easily OHKOes Darkrai, Reshiram, Zekrom, Rayquaza, Dragon Arceus, and Garchomp, and has a 33% chance of OHKOing unboosted Mewtwo. Thunder is used to 2HKO Lugia and Ho-Oh after Stealth Rock, and for inflicting severe damage onto Kyogre. Fire Blast can be used to prevent Steel-types from switching in freely, but it relies more on the team having dual weather to support both it and Thunder. Aura Sphere can prevent a Lucario or Dialga sweep, while nailing Heatran and Tyranitar for super effective damage. For the fourth moveslot, Dragon Pulse gives Dialga a move that is consistent damage-wise. On the other hand, Outrage, with a Hasty nature, can be used to take down non physically bulky Calm Mind Kyogre; it may also get the 2HKO on Blissey with some prior damage. Dialga can also check Swords Dance Arceus thanks to its resistance to ExtremeSpeed. Keep in mind that Draco Meteor cannot KO a healthy Arceus and if Arceus has Recover, Dialga loses.
A Modest or Mild nature can be used if you want more power behind Dialga's attacks. The advantage of outspeeding Adamant Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, and Speed tying with other Scarf users with base 90 Speed may be lost with this change, since many of them opt to run a speed boosting nature. With Modest, Dialga OHKOes Mewtwo after Stealth Rock 87% of the time and deals more damage to Arceus. When using a Modest Nature a spread of 64 HP / 252 SpA / 192 Spe can be used for more power and some extra bulk. Shift the HP EVs to Atk if you are using Outrage and change the nature to Mild or Rash.
Scarf Dialga can only break walls with careful prediction, but above all else Dialga wants some weather to help it take advantage of Thunder and possibly Fire Blast. Offensive Kyogre and Groudon both appreciate faster Pokemon being picked off by Dialga. Scarf Dialga may be faster than most, but it does lose to other Scarf users such as Scarf Palkia, Scarf Garchomp, Scarf Terrakion, Scarf Darkrai, and Dragon Dance Rayquaza in Speed. Groudon can handle Scarf Garchomp, Scarf Terrakion and Dragon Dance Rayquaza most of the time, though be aware that continuously taking damage will eventually wear out Groudon due to its lack of recovery. Scarf Darkrai's only threatening attacks are Dark Void and Focus Blast, the latter having only 70% accuracy. Scizor can switch into Scarf Darkrai safely and OHKO it with U-turn. It can at least take out a weakened Darkrai with Bullet Punch if necessary (54.4% - 64.4%). Finally, be very cautious of Wobbuffet as it can revenge kill Dialga easily thanks to Dialga being locked into one move. Blissey and Chansey don't fear anything from this set. Outrages usually fails to 2HKO Blissey who can use Protect as well to gain some recovery. Lugia and Ho-Oh are both problematic to this Dialga unless the weather condition is favorable. Both can easily survive Thunder however, due to their massive HP and Special Defense stat. Ferrothorn can take any attack not named Fire Blast and set up Spikes or Leech Seed Dialga. Opposing defensive Dialga can be problematic to this set as well. Defensive Arceus can take any attack with its great defenses. Groudon can take any attack and OHKO Dialga with Earthquake. Kyogre can check defensive Arceus, Ho-Oh, Lugia and Groudon with its powerful Water-type strikes. Giratina-O can handle Groudon and use Choice users stuck on Fighting- or Ground-type moves as setup bait. Lugia also makes a good partner to Dialga as it resists Dialga's two weaknesses and checks Scarf Palkia, Garchomp, and Dragon Dance Rayquaza.Nome Moveset Strumento Abilitŕ Natura Choice Specs Lentiscelta Pressione Modesta Mosse EVs ~ Dragobolide
~ Tuono
~ Dragonpulsar
~ Fuocobomba / Aurasfera / Geoforza252 PS / 252 Att Sp / 4 Vel
Boosted by Choice Specs, Dialga's attacks will deal insane damage to even those who resist it. Not only does Draco Meteor OHKO Groudon, barring those that heavily invest in Special Defense, but it has enough power to OHKO Lucario who resists the attack. Even max HP Metagross has an 87% chance of being 2HKOed by Draco Meteor. Thunder helps Dialga a lot since the paralysis caters to Dialga's low Speed. After Stealth Rock, Thunder also OHKOes max HP Kyogre and Ho-Oh. Fire Blast is used to prevent wasting Draco Meteor's PP on bulkier Steel-type Pokemon such as Steel Arceus, Ferrothorn and Jirachi, while decreasing the chances of Groudon safely switching into Dialga. Since Heatran can cause trouble with its resistance to Dialga's Dragon-type attacks, Aura Sphere can be used instead. Aura Sphere is also an option over Thunder since Draco Meteor hits hard enough to OHKO min HP Kyogre anyway. Earth Power can be used if you want to OHKO defensive Heatran. Aura Sphere is Dialga's best option to kill Bulk Up Dialga, defensive Arceus and at least threaten a weakened Blissey. Draco Meteor can OHKO most opposing Dialga as well.
The given EVs allow Dialga to outspeed slow base 90s such as Groudon. They also keep Dialga very bulky so it can keep threatening the opponent. If you want Dialga to be faster, you can use more Speed EVs to outspeed the vast majority of bulky 90 base Speed Pokemon, while tying with those that attempt to be agile. Timid is also a good nature since it allows Dialga to outspeed Adamant Rayquaza, while tying with max Speed Jolly Lucario. Dialga can use 192 Speed EVs with a Timid nature to outspeed said Adamant Rayquaza and place the rest of the EVs toward HP. Max Speed Timid is also acceptable to speed tie with Specs Reshiram and outspeed Naive Giratina-O. The loss in power can be significant when using Timid though. With Max HP, Dialga can survive a Terrakion's Close Combat.
Dialga's biggest issues with this set can all be resolved, but with varying degrees of difficulty. Blissey and Chansey become the biggest counter to this set, since Dialga lacks any way of KOing them reliably unless they are under a third of their health. Because Dialga is great for knocking down the physical walls of Ubers, it appreciates physical attackers as its teammates. Swords Dance Garchomp enjoys Groudon and Lugia being cleared out of the way, and doesn't falter to Thunder Wave from Blissey. Granted, Garchomp still has to fear Ice Beam, but Blissey usually opts to use Seismic Toss to better handle Dialga, Kyogre, and Palkia. Swords Dance Garchomp with a Haban Berry is sufficient for the job, though Choice Band climbs in effectiveness thanks to many of the Levitating Pokemon being shut down by Draco Meteor or Thunder. Once again, weather is fairly important for this set to work effectively. Much like the Choice Scarf set, beware of Wobbuffet; it poses less of a threat since it is 2HKOed by Dragon Pulse, but it still only takes 40% max from -2 SpA Draco Meteor which allows Wobbuffet to trap Dialga after a single Draco Meteor use. Lugia can stall out Dialga unless the weather in raining. Ho-Oh can do the same but will still take huge amounts of damage from Draco Meteor. Lugia is faster than Dialga and can abuse Roost to stall out Dialga. Choice Band Garchomp and Terrakion outrun and OHKO Dialga. Both of them cannot come in on Dragon moves though. Arceus Wall can come in on any move and stall out Dialga with Recover but Draco Meteor can nearly OHKO Arceus. Ground Arceus and Fighting Arceus are both the best variants to deal with Dialga. Kyogre can drown Terrakion and Ground Arceus while Ho-Oh can deal with Fighting Arceus. Ho-Oh resists Dialga's two weaknesses while Dialga in turn resists Ho-Oh's weaknesses to Rock, Electric and Water. Zekrom can easily scare off Blissey and Chansey while Dialga lures in and smashes Groudon with a powerful Draco Meteor or roasts Ferrothorn with Fire Blast. Zekrom handles Ho-Oh, and Lugia decently too. However, Zekrom shares a Ground weakness with Dialga. Skarmory can set up Spikes on Groudon, Lugia and Blissey or Chansey who might come in to wall Dialga. If Chansey and Blissey are weakened by Spikes, Dialga might be able to musle its way past the pink blobs.
All Dialga sets enjoy Stealth Rock support, since it turns certain 2HKOs into OHKOs, and wears down some of its checks, such as Lugia. Despite having an excellent typing, wonderful defenses, and an immunity to Toxic Spikes, Dialga unfortunately lacks a reliable way to restore its health beyond using Rest. Thus, Wish support can greatly extend its life span. The main Wish users are Blissey, Chansey, and Jirachi. Latias shares good typing synergy with Dialga but can only pass small wishes and without Soul Dew she isn't that useful in Ubers anymore. Dialga resists Latias's Ghost and Dark weaknesses while Latias provides a Ground immunity and Fighting resistance. Offensive Dialga also enjoy paralysis support (except for the Choice Scarf set, where it's redundant most of the time), because Dialga is slow by Uber standards. Chansey, Blissey, Jirachi, and Latias can also use Thunder Wave (or in Jirachi's case, Body Slam with Serene Grace) to further support Dialga. Chansey and Blissey however, usually prefer to use Toxic. Groudon is another excellent user of Thunder Wave because not only can it scare off Steel-types, but it can also lure in and paralyze Lugia, meaning Lugia will have a harder time using Roost to stall offensive Dialga. Groudon can also act as a check to Ho-Oh if Groudon can outrun Ho-Oh. If Ferrothorn is problematic by soaking up Dialga's Dragon moves, Groudon can use Fire Punch to surprise the unfortunate shell.
Few Pokemon can have an easy switch-in on Dialga, due to both its high offensive stats and versatility. Most Pokemon that can stop Dialga require powerful super effective attacks, high Speed, or very good defenses. Most of these problematic Pokemon cannot switch in safely on Dialga so, they need to go for the revenge kills. Groudon in particular can use a specially-defensive EV spread to survive most of Dialga's assaults, bar Choice Specs Draco Meteors, and use its STAB Earthquakes to take Dialga down. It may also be able to set up Rock Polish to threaten a sweep if it switches into the right attack (such as Thunder). Shaymin-S carrying a Choice Scarf can solve this problem, thanks to its immunity to Earthquake, and its ability to outspeed and OHKO Adamant Rock Polish Groudon with Seed Flare. Life Orb Lucario and Life Orb Garchomp can OHKO Dialga with Close Combat and Earthquake, respectively. Gengar can use Focus Blast to OHKO Lucario, and Hidden Power Ice to OHKO Garchomp. Although these Pokemon cannot always OHKO the bulkier Dialga variants, Gengar and Darkrai can threaten to do a huge amount of damage to Dialga with Focus Blast, while Mewtwo can use the more accurate Aura Sphere. Using your own Mewtwo can help since it can switch into Gengar's Focus Blast and threaten to OHKO it with Psycho Break. Choice Scarf Heracross can switch into both Darkrai's Focus Blast and Mewtwo's Aura Sphere, and threaten to OHKO them with Megahorn. Heracross can also use Sleep Talk to strike back if Darkrai uses Dark Void. Choice Scarf Kyogre can easily OHKO Darkrai, Mewtwo and Gengar with Water Spout while scaring off Groudon at the same time. Scarf Terrakion can revenge kill Darkrai as well. Scarf Zekrom can revenge kill Mewtwo, Gengar, Lugia and Darkrai regardless of Calm Minds.
Dialga is an extremely sturdy Pokemon. Fighting- and Ground-type moves are moderately common in Ubers, so Pokemon that cover those two weaknesses complement Dialga very well defensively. Giratina-O and Gengar are fantastic examples of this, as they are immune to both of Dialga's weaknesses, while they will both attract Ghost- and Dark-type attacks that Dialga can easily switch into and wreck havoc. Giratina-O also has good defenses and can handle Groudon with ease. Lugia is a particularly good defensive partner, as it not only possesses gargantuan defenses and an immunity to Ground-type attacks, but also a 4x resistance to Fighting-type attacks. Additionally, Latias, Latios, Rayquaza, Ho-Oh, and Shaymin-S complement Dialga well, thanks to their immunities to Ground-type moves and resistances to Fighting-type moves. Although Skarmory is only covering Dialga's Ground-type weakness, it has the bonus of being able to set up Spikes on Pokemon such as Groudon, Terrakion and Garchomp. Finally, the many Psychic-types of Ubers, such as Wobbuffet and Mewtwo, are able to competently cover Dialga's weakness to Fighting-type attacks. Reshiram can blow past Heatran if Dialga is using Groudon as a partner. Groudon may not share good typing synergy with Dialga but Groudon can check Garchomp, opposing Groudon, Lucario, and Terrakion for Dialga. As a bonus, Groudon can set up Stealth Rock for Dialga if Dialga isn't using it. Ghost Arceus and Giratina can be used to resist Dialga's Fighting-type weakness. They both attract Ghost- or Dark-type moves which Dialga can switch into with impunity. Giratina also walls Groudon and Terrakion for Dialga. Psychic Arceus can be used as a partner if Dialga is having serious problems with Fighting Arceus or Mewtwo.Altre Opzioni
Dialga has a very wide movepool and some can work as potential support moves. Psych Up can be useful on Dialga, allowing it to copy the stat boosts that Calm Mind Kyogre or Arceus may have netted. Dialga is a great user of Trick Room in Ubers too, having brilliant all-around stats bar Speed. Trick Room is best used on the Mixed Set which is already mentioned. Flash Cannon is an auxiliary STAB attack, but Steel is a poor offensive type. Ice Beam with Choice Specs allows Dialga to OHKO Groudon without resorting to Draco Meteor or Overheat, but is otherwise generally a poor choice since Dialga already has powerful Dragon-type STAB. Iron Tail should never be used, because as already noted, Steel is a poor offensive type, and its 75% accuracy leaves much to be desired. Iron Head can surprise Tyranitar and Calm Mind Rock Arceus but that's about it. A Choice Band set could work but it is outclassed by Zekrom who has STAB Electric-type attacks at its disposal to break through Lugia.
Magnet Rise can be a good option on some Dialga sets, as it can foil Dialga's arch enemy, Groudon. If you opt for Bulk Up with Magnet Rise, then use an EV spread of 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spe. This allows Dialga to use Bulk Up as Groudon switches in, use Magnet Rise before most Groudon can move, and then either hit the next switch-in hard with Outrage or Earthquake, or use Bulk Up again. This is, however, not recommended as Groudon can just Dragon Tail Dialga out. Balloon can be used to keep Dialga safe from Ground-type moves before it is hit, and can be used on the Mixed Set. Dialga can also fly over Spikes with Balloon. The power boost from Life Orb or Expert Belt are usually better though since Dialga misses the power.
Roar of Time sounds and looks cool, but is in fact a terrible move to use, as is the rest of the Hyper Beam suite; Draco Meteor and even Dragon Pulse out-damages it over the course of two turns, and the unavoidable second turn recharge is a perfect opportunity for something threatening to set up. As for items, Choice Scarf can be used with physical moves if so desired, but Dialga's physical attacks are generally weak if unboosted. Using Roar of Time as a suicide move seems appetizing but is generally a gimmicky option.
A 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SpD EV spread can be used if you just want to maximize Dialga's ability to take special attacks. An alternative EV spread of 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD can be used to take physical attacks better, but is generally a horrible option as Groudon does that much better. Dialga should not try to imitate Groudon but instead utilize its auspicious typing and special attacking prowess.Controlli e Counters
Dialga is extremely hard to counter due to its sheer power and versatility. How it can be countered depends on the weather conditions and the moveset it is using. In general, Ho-Oh and Heatran can counter Dialga while under sunny conditions. Lugia fears nothing from most sets bar Thunders in the rain. The biggest thing to note is that Thunder's accuracy is cut to 50% under the sun, which means there is only a 15% chance that Ho-Oh and Heatran will be hit by Thunder followed by paralysis. Meanwhile, Ho-Oh’s impressive Sacred Fire has a 50% chance to inflict a burn on Dialga, which hampers the Mixed sets using Outrage and hurts Dialga in general since it forces Dialga to swallow 12.5% of its health every turn. A burned Dialga can never get past the pink blobs unless Dialga is using the Defensive Bulk Up set. With Ho-Oh's access to recovery, Pressure, and a high Special Defense stat, Dialga is in trouble when it only has Stone Edge or the rare Power Gem to kill Ho-Oh. Heatran can shut down the Bulk Up set with a simple use of Taunt, while fearing only Earthquake or Aura Sphere at worst from Dialga. Earth Power from the Choice sets can surprise Heatran as well. Scarf Reshiram can OHKO most sets other than the Defensive Bulk Up set with Blue Fire. Reshiram cannot come in on Dragon-type moves though. When facing a Defensive Bulk Up set, Reshiram can just incinerate Dialga in a single hit with Specs Blue Fire. If rain is present, countering Dialga will be harder, as a 30% chance of paralysis from Thunder is nothing to scoff at. Scizor can fire off Superpower at Dialga for super effective damage. Superpower will not OHKO Dialga though and Fire Blast will still hurt Scizor in the rain. Metagross can step into the scene and launch an Earthquake at Dialga, or use Trick on sets such as Bulk Up or Support to cripple Dialga. It also does well at countering the Mixed sets, though beware of stepping into either Earth Power or Fire-type moves in the sun. Metagross is only 2x weak to Fire-type attacks so it can counter Dialga better than Scizor can. Bear in mind, both Metagross and Scizor are not counters to Bulk Up Dialga as it can Bulk Up twice before both the Steel-types can attack it. Ferrothorn has the Steel typing and good Special Defense to shield it from most attacks Dialga usually carries bar Fire-type moves. In rain, Ferrothorn can survive even Fire-type moves and annoy Dialga with Leech Seed or set up Spikes on it.
Groudon is a good counter since it threatens Dialga with STAB Earthquake, and has access to Roar or Dragon Tail to nullify the Bulk Up set. Offensive Groudon can has an easier time KOing Dialga as most Dialga are slower than it. Blissey and Chansey can usually take on all non-Bulk Up sets, though beware that the Mixed Set can carry Outrage to 2HKO both. Brick Break can 2HKO Blissey but Chansey can usually survive 2 hits thanks to Eviolite. Skarmory does well at countering the Bulk Up set which has no answer against Skarmory, except if Skarmory and Dialga are the last Pokemon standing. Skarmory can still Taunt Dialga but Skarmory will run out of Roost PP before Dialga finishes spamming boosted Outrages. Lugia is a great counter to Dialga regardless of the weather, as it can survive 2 Thunders. Specs Thunder can hurt Lugia however, due to the possible paralysis preventing Lugia from using Roost on Dialga. It can set up Reflect to severely weaken Dialga's physical moves, while Whirlwind deals with the Bulk Up set. Tyranitar, especially those that invest in Special Defense, can be a great Dialga check when it is at full health. Tyranitar can deal massive damage to Dialga with Earthquake or Superpower. Wobbuffet can be an annoying Pokemon for Dialga to deal with, since Dialga lacks Taunt and cannot OHKO Wobbuffet on the spot. It has to beware of the Mixed set and Specs Draco Meteor though. A Specs Draco Meteor will nearly kill Wobbuffet after a bit of prior damage. Ground Arceus can easily fell Dialga with Earthquake or Judgement while sporting magnificent defenses and Recover to shrug off most hits. Fighting Arceus can take any attack and 2HKO even the bulkiest Dialga with Judgement. Defensive Normal Arceus can also wall Dialga but fails to do much back to Dialga outside of Earthquake.
Since Dialga is one of the slowest Pokemon in Ubers, you can use faster Pokemon to revenge kill it. This strategy fails when Dialga carries a Choice Scarf, but is still the safest way of dealing with most Dialga sets. Life Orb Mewtwo's Aura Sphere can OHKO min HP / min SpD Dialga 43% of the time while Specs Aura Sphere will always OHKO. Deoxys-A has access to Superpower to obliterate Dialga on the spot, as it does around the same damage as Mewtwo's Choice Specs Aura Sphere. Garchomp has access to STAB Earthquake to smack Dialga hard. Terrakion can OHKO most offensive Dialga with Close Combat. If it is the support Dialga set, all of the aforementioned counters fail to OHKO while they will receive massive damage from Dialga's powerful strikes in the process. Darkrai can use Dark Void to nullify every set barring the Bulk Up set, while OHKOing Dialga with a Nasty Plot-boosted Focus Blast.Mondo Dei Sogni
Dialga gained nothing in Dream World other than Telepathy which is useless in singles competitive play.
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