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Forretress
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Stat Min- Min Max Max+ PS 75- 291 354 - Att 90194 216 279 306 Dif 140284 316 379 416 Att Sp 60140 156 219 240 Dif Sp 60140 156 219 240 Vel 40104 116 179 196 Nome Moveset Strumento Natura Physically Defensive Avanzi / Disfoguscio Placida Mosse IVs EVs ~ Punte
~ Rapigiro
~ Fielepunte
~ Terremoto / Invertivolt / Vortexpalla0 Vel 252 PS / 176 Dif / 80 Dif Sp
Physically defensive Forretress is capable of setting up and spinning away entry hazards against a myriad of neutral and resisted physical moves, including Outrage, and choiced Steel-type attacks. Toxic Spikes and Spikes are the two entry hazards of choice due to the wider distribution of Stealth Rock, and are both highly effective thanks to the high number of grounded threats in the metagame. Rapid Spin completes Forretress's trio of supporting moves, spinning away all opposing entry hazards. Earthquake can be used on the last slot, hitting some common Forretress switch-ins, such as Magnezone and Heatran, as well as other grounded Fire-types, for heavy damage. Gyro Ball allows Forretress to hit switch-ins such as Hydreigon and Landorus for reasonable damage, and finally, Volt Switch allows Forretress to escape trappers and gain momentum for its team.
Forretress's EV spread allows it to get the most out of its naturally solid defenses, giving it a significant amount of physical bulk. This allows Forretress to take on a wide variety of physical attacks, while the Special Defense helps in taking weaker special attacks. An alternate spread of 252 HP / 112 Atk / 144 Def is also viable if one chooses Earthquake for the last slot, netting an OHKO on opposing Heatran and Magnezone after Stealth Rock damage. However, Air Balloon Heatran will still be able to switch in safely on Forretress, even if Earthquake is being used. In addition, if one of the listed entry hazards is unneeded, a second attacking move can replace it to complement Forretress's type coverage. However, Forretress's main goal is usually to set up hazards rather than to attack directly. Finally, Shed Shell is a good alternative to Leftovers due to the prevalence of trappers such as Magnezone, whereas the latter grants Forretress significantly more staying power.
Because Forretress's limited attacking options are rather weak, it's set-up fodder for many Pokemon. Kingdra, Gyarados, and bulkier Salamence are all capable of coming in against Forretress thanks to their natural bulk and, in the case of Salamence and Gyarados, Intimidate it, allowing them to set up easily. Also, the attacking move Forretress is running will determine which Pokemon can set up on it. Without Gyro Ball, for instance, Terrakion and Landorus, as well as other sweepers immune to Ground-type attacks, can set up on Forretress with ease. If Forretress lacks Earthquake, then Nasty Plot and Swords Dance Lucario, as well as Magnezone, other grounded Steel-types, and assorted Fire-types have a field day against it. Finally, Heatran, Chandelure, and essentially anything with a Fire-type attack is capable of either KOing or knocking a tremendous dent in Forretress. In general, anything with a strong special STAB attack is capable of tearing out a massive chunk of Forretress's HP.
Forretress pairs well with Pokemon that can handle its crippling Fire weakness, as well as take hits from all the special attackers that plague it. Tyranitar can deal with Heatran, Chandelure, and Magnezone, and easily switch in on special attacks due to sandstorm increasing its Special Defense. It can also eliminate spinblockers and Magic Bounce Pokemon, allowing Forretress to spin and set up entry hazards more easily. Jellicent and Vaporeon are also great teammates as the former is one of the best spinblockers in OU and the latter can pass Wish to Forretress to make up for its lack of reliable recovery. Defensive Gyarados also pairs well with Forretress, eliminating some troubling sweepers that set up on it, such as Swords Dance Lucario. Finally, Blissey and Chansey can take hits from special attackers such as Heatran, pairing with Forretress to form a pseudo-SkarmBliss combination, walling a huge number of threats.Nome Moveset Strumento Natura Specially Defensive Avanzi / Disfoguscio Vivace / Placida Mosse EVs ~ Punte
~ Rapigiro
~ Fielepunte
~ Terremoto / Invertivolt / Vortexpalla252 PS / 4 Dif / 252 Dif Sp.
Forretress is capable of switching in on a huge number of common attacks. It can then proceed to set up or spin opposing hazards away. The difference is that this set sacrifices a bit of physical bulk for the ability to switch in against more powerful special attacks, such as the common choice-locked Draco Meteor. The entry hazards and Rapid Spin form the crux of the set, allowing Forretress to function as a solid support Pokemon throughout the game. Forretress has a couple of options for its final moveslot: Earthquake allows Forretress to put a solid dent in the common Steel- and Fire-types, and can let it beat common trappers such as Magnezone by abusing Sturdy; Volt Switch is another option, letting Forretress set the momentum of the battle in its user's favor by pivoting out of switch-ins and trappers; Gyro Ball can hit some common switch-ins, such as Latios and Latias, for reasonable damage.
The given EV spread offers Forretress maximum special bulk, allowing it to switch into a wide array of special attacks. This lets Forretress safely set up against a variety of common Pokemon, such as bulky Water-types, as well as weak special attackers in general. Finally, specially defensive Forretress can afford to take an unSTABed Fire attack if necessary, making it less vulnerable to a large portion of the metagame. Leftovers is arguably the superior item on this set, as it lets Forretress abuse Sturdy with greater ease, and more importantly, turns several 3HKOs—from the likes of bulky Water-types and other common Pokemon not investing in Special Attack—into 4HKOs. However, Shed Shell is still an option if you are overly concerned with being trapped by Magnezone. Finally, Pain Split is usable, as its semi-reliable recovery gives Forretress a nice edge over Ferrothorn and other Spikers.
Sadly, even with the tremendous investment in Special Defense, anything with a STABed Fire move is capable of ripping massive chunks out of Forretress's HP. This means that common Fire-types, such as Heatran and Darmanitan, are all capable of demolishing Forretress. Also, due to the lack of Attack investment, most sweepers can use Forretress as set-up fodder.
Taking into account the aforementioned weaknesses, there are some teammates that should be considered for this set. Since Forretress's main goal is to set up entry hazards, Jellicent and Dusclops are good teammates as they have a good synergy with it and can make sure the hazards aren't spun away. Vaporeon and Chansey / Blissey also pair very well with Forretress thanks to their good special bulk and the ability to pass giant Wishes. Finally, Tyranitar is also a good partner for the bagworm: it can switch into most special attackers, eliminate the problematic Magic Bounce Pokemon, and, as a bonus, sets up sandstorm, which, when added to the entry hazard damage, means the opponent's Pokemon will die much faster.Altre Opzioni
Though Forretress's movepool is by no means diverse, it certainly has a couple of options that can be used if necessary. Gyro Ball, when combined with Macho Brace, has 100 Base Power against anything with 198 Speed or more, which is a significant portion of this fast-paced metagame. However, this is normally pulled off more effectively by Ferrothorn, who has a lower base Speed and better dual STABs. In addition, if avoiding becoming set-up fodder is more important than getting up as many layers as possible, then Explosion is a reasonable alternative over any of the sets' attacking moves. However, due to its reduction in power, it is in general not very useful.
In terms of supporting options, Forretress receives both Light Screen and Reflect. While these moves are undoubtedly useful, it's normally better to leave dual screening to slightly bulkier Pokemon with better resistances, or Pokemon that aren't complete set-up bait. In addition, Forretress once again suffers from the four moveslot syndrome, as it can't use both screens and two entry hazards without forgoing an attacking move, allowing Taunt to completely shut it down. Forretress also has a couple of recovery options between Rest and Pain Split and, while neither of them is reliable, they are both somewhat viable choices if Forretress is being used without Wish support. However, Rest should always be used with either Aromatherapy or Heal Bell support.
Because Forretress's base HP is very low, the first step when attempting to create an EV spread for it should always be to maximize HP. From there, the remaining EVs should be split between its defenses, or Attack when trying to KO specific Pokemon.Controlli e Counters
Due to Forretress's rather lackluster attacking options, a wide range of Pokemon are capable of countering it. Fire-types, such as Heatran, are capable of switching into any move Forretress has when holding an Air Balloon and can either obliterate it with their STAB Fire moves or use it as set-up fodder. Air Balloon Magnezone can also come in on any of Forretress's moves, trapping and KOing it. In addition, Ghost-types prevent Forretress from spinning away hazards, and many of them, such as Chandelure (though it's not primarily used as a spinblocker), Jellicent, and Gengar are all capable of putting a dent into or even OHKOing Forretress if it lacks investment in Special Defense.
Also, Forretress is very easy to set up on depending on what its moveset is. Lucario doesn't fear Forretress when it's holding an Air Balloon or if the latter lacks Earthquake. Conkeldurr can come in on a wide variety of Forretress's moves and proceed to set up with Bulk Up, and Excadrill can set up on Forretress lacking Earthquake. In addition, if Forretress doesn't have Gyro Ball, then Landorus, Virizion, and Haxorus can all switch in and start to wreak havoc. Finally, Pokemon with reasonable natural bulk or Intimidate, such as Gyarados and Salamence, can switch in on most of Forretress's moves and proceed to set up.
Forretress is also easily lured in, as its only real way to set entry hazards up is against Pokemon that are incapable of hurting it much. It has to take those opportunities to set up, so lures such as Expert Belt Tyranitar and Metagross, with Flamethrower and Hidden Power Fire, respectively, can easily remove Forretress. In addition, since Forretress commonly serves as a defensive pivot, as well as a Spiker on full stall, it's relatively easy to predict around. Finally, both Xatu and Espeon have Magic Bounce and can immediately force Forretress to switch.Mondo Dei Sogni
Forretress doesn't really get much from the Dream World. Its new ability, Overcoat, lets it avoid damage from weather, which is rather useless when Hail, the only weather that damages Forretress, is so uncommon. However, Custap Berry can be used to make Forretress a viable lead, as when combined with Sturdy, it gives Forretress the ability to set up at least two layers of entry hazards against anything lacking Taunt or a priority move.
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